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		<title>By: links for 2011-06-27 &#171; Blarney Fellow</title>
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		<title>By: Janno</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jun 2011 11:01:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is very intriguing. Thank you for this post!

What I don&#039;t get is how you compute the derivative of x^n. It seems to me that you make the assumption that the derivative is n*x^(n-1), put that in and arrive at your assumption. I guess I&#039;m missing something here. 
I tried to compute the derivative of f(x)=a^x (for some constant a),
starting with 
f&#039;(x) dx = f(x + dx) - f(x) = a^(x + dx) - a^x
Now, I know that I can express a^(x + dx) by a^x + f&#039;(x) dx, but that only leads me back to f&#039;(x) = f&#039;(x). What would be the next step to complete the derivation?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is very intriguing. Thank you for this post!</p>
<p>What I don&#8217;t get is how you compute the derivative of x^n. It seems to me that you make the assumption that the derivative is n*x^(n-1), put that in and arrive at your assumption. I guess I&#8217;m missing something here.<br />
I tried to compute the derivative of f(x)=a^x (for some constant a),<br />
starting with<br />
f&#8217;(x) dx = f(x + dx) &#8211; f(x) = a^(x + dx) &#8211; a^x<br />
Now, I know that I can express a^(x + dx) by a^x + f&#8217;(x) dx, but that only leads me back to f&#8217;(x) = f&#8217;(x). What would be the next step to complete the derivation?</p>
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		<title>By: alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jun 2010 14:15:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This goes on my list of things which I would gain immeasurable benefit from being told 10 years ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This goes on my list of things which I would gain immeasurable benefit from being told 10 years ago.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 20:33:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Andrej,

Thank you for your prompt reply and encouragement!

Though the Amazon.com &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/review/R3QFX4MVXNS87D/ref=cm_cr_rdp_perm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;reviews&lt;/a&gt; of Calculus Demystified weren&#039;t very positive, by and large, the Schaum&#039;s outline series looks good. The &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.stanleyschmidt.com/FredGauss/index2.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Life of Fred&lt;/a&gt; series, which was recommended to me in the past, also looks like it might be a winner.

It&#039;s good to hear both that it&#039;s likely possible to avoid a study of classical mathematics in order to be able to get to intuitionist mathematics, and also that my concern about potential difficulties unlearning the classical stuff wasn&#039;t unfounded.

Again, thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Andrej,</p>
<p>Thank you for your prompt reply and encouragement!</p>
<p>Though the Amazon.com <a href="http://www.amazon.com/review/R3QFX4MVXNS87D/ref=cm_cr_rdp_perm" rel="nofollow">reviews</a> of Calculus Demystified weren&#8217;t very positive, by and large, the Schaum&#8217;s outline series looks good. The <a href="http://www.stanleyschmidt.com/FredGauss/index2.html" rel="nofollow">Life of Fred</a> series, which was recommended to me in the past, also looks like it might be a winner.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s good to hear both that it&#8217;s likely possible to avoid a study of classical mathematics in order to be able to get to intuitionist mathematics, and also that my concern about potential difficulties unlearning the classical stuff wasn&#8217;t unfounded.</p>
<p>Again, thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Andrej Bauer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrej Bauer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 07:33:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Matthew, the math we are talking about here is at about advanced undergraduate level. It would help if you knew the basics of calculus. For a super-quick and dirty course in calculus I would probably recommend one of Schaum&#039;s outline series books, perhaps &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mhprofessional.com/product.php?isbn=0071412115&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;Calculus demystified&quot;&lt;/a&gt;, but before you cough up 20 dollars for that book have a look at the &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Calculus&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Wikibooks Calculus&lt;/a&gt;.

Since you are coming from the philosophical angle I definitely suggest that you have a look at Erret Bishop&#039;s manifesto, which is the introduction to his Foundations of Constructive Analysis.

It is a complete lie that you have to study classical mathematics in order to be able to later get to intuitionistic mathematics. Quite the contrary, once your brain has been trained how to use the law of excluded middle it is a real effort to deprogram yourself and be able to reason constructively. Your teachers were just trying to shut you up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Matthew, the math we are talking about here is at about advanced undergraduate level. It would help if you knew the basics of calculus. For a super-quick and dirty course in calculus I would probably recommend one of Schaum&#8217;s outline series books, perhaps <a href="http://www.mhprofessional.com/product.php?isbn=0071412115" rel="nofollow">&#8220;Calculus demystified&#8221;</a>, but before you cough up 20 dollars for that book have a look at the <a href="http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Calculus" rel="nofollow">Wikibooks Calculus</a>.</p>
<p>Since you are coming from the philosophical angle I definitely suggest that you have a look at Erret Bishop&#8217;s manifesto, which is the introduction to his Foundations of Constructive Analysis.</p>
<p>It is a complete lie that you have to study classical mathematics in order to be able to later get to intuitionistic mathematics. Quite the contrary, once your brain has been trained how to use the law of excluded middle it is a real effort to deprogram yourself and be able to reason constructively. Your teachers were just trying to shut you up.</p>
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